The state police dropped him as a suspect. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. I was told they wanted to convict Lawrence Slaughter and not my sister.. She had money put aside. Interesting thought about the alibi timing. you dont want to fall off and hurt your oversized ego. Immediately after getting out of prison in the year 2000, Larry wrote a detailed letter stating that he lied about his sisters involvement in the death of her husband. The couple was not allowed to have contact during court proceedings. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Are you even aware there are judges, eminent writers, lawyers and TV personalities and countless other ordinary people all of whom steadfastly support her as being innocent and wrongly convicted. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. What they reported to us is that she came into their care in 1999 where she was found in need, in the streets in Puerto Rico, where she had been wandering around. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. It was Patricias hair no question. One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. They released a poster of Joann and Alex, noting that the baby had almond-shaped blue eyes, weighed 18 pounds, and was circumcised. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. This article can also be seen at crimereport.com. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. Black said she was glad Said took the witness stand, giving her the chance to poke holes in his story, exposing him to everyone who has been watching this case. If the answer is no, enough said! If I rolled my eyes any harder they might fall out. CHOOSE1s Three Strikes Reform Act needs 500,000 signatures by July 17 to make the November ballot, CHOOSE1 files new initiative to reform Californias Three Strikes law, The First Friday doc premieres this week at the New Parkway. He was captured in August and is in state custody. Andy passed not one but two polygraph tests and had a solid alibi. in emerging media and communication from the University of Texas at Dallas and an M.S. She asked to speak with Andrew, who was home during the call; Joann refused. A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. Angry that Joann hung up on her, she stalked her for three days, then broke into her basement and cut the phone line, put a gun to Joanns head as she was placing Alex in the car, and forced her to drive to the rural area. Youre absolutely right!! The hearing of the motion for reduction of felony to misdemeanor will be held Tuesday, Oct. 11, at 1:30 p.m. in the Riverside Courthouse at 4050 Main St. in Department 42. "We will never again know the joy and love we knew for 33 years," the letter stated. He wanted to move to Colorado and she was against it.. In April 2019, 69-year-old Patricia was found guilty of second-degree murder and the use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). At one point, Owens looked directly at Said and reminded him of all of the abuse they endured, allegedly having a knife pulled on her. Armed homeowners Mark and Patricia McCloskey stood in front of their house in June 2020, confronting protesters who were marching to St. Louis Mayor Lyda Krewson's Do you realize that Patricia was only found and arrested more than six months after the murder? Also why if beaten with a gun or with whatever, why was there no blood on the clothing? Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. Marcelin said the detectives, referring to Patricia Wright, asked, Dont you want that [expletive] off the street?. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. Further, an early FBI report said the hairs found in the car had no roots which contain the DNA suggesting an evidence switcheroo. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. Its been going on for almost 31 years, the distraught man explained. In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. And the obvious answer is that the makers too think the evidence is against her. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. You should be ashamed of yourself. Yaser Abdel Said, 65, was found guilty of the 2008 capital murders of his daughters, Sarah Said, 17, and Amina Said, 18, according to the Dallas Morning News. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. First it was winter, cold temperatures preserve bodies for significantly longer periods. Yaser Said was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the murder of his two daughters Amina and Sarah Said in 2008. Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. A correction to the comment above. Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. WebShe is as guilty as her husbandshe KNEW that her husband would kill these girlsshe even STATED that he would kill the girlsand yet she lied to them to get them to return to Texas Search it out and check for yourself. In your future life in prison I trust that not a day goes by in which you won't revisit your crime.". In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? Some two years into the investigation of Rorrer, a court order was obtained to remove hair specimens from her. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. At the time of the killings, police said that there had been domestic problems in the family and that they were exploring all possible motives for the slayings. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. Three days later, Joann had plans to pick up her mother-in-law, Veronica Katrinak, to go Christmas shopping. Hoist by your own petard. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. I expect she will admit it one day. Great catch. A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. Anyone who thinks this psycho isnt guilty needs to take off their tin hat. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. Not everything is a conspiracy. The obvious, if moot, response to this is to observe that her conviction wasnt based on inaccurate documentaries but on trial. Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. Hair we go. Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. At one point Interpol had an extremely similar case in which an individual convinced a friend, who had been his sexual partner several times in the past, to kill the woman he had a baby with, on the grounds that the child is not his and he does not love her but cannot leave because everyone would accuse him of abandoning his child and his family name would be affected. She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. What evidence is there she actually left the state? Omg so well put! "This was not a sudden or impetuous act on your part. I decided to just plead guilty to get it over with.. Stop. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. BROADCASTING SPECULATIVE SCENES, SUCH AS MENTIONED ABOVE, CAN LEAVE A VERY INDELIBLE MEMORY ON THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY TO REMAIN GULLIBLE. "The one thing I am guilty of is bringing the person who committed this crime to Vermont, and for that, I'm truly sorry" Allen Prue said in an apparent reference to his wife during his December sentencing. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. Blasczyk said she escaped from East Germany as a teenager when the country was under Communist leadership. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. Patricia Wright is a prisoner in Central California Womens Facilitys Nursing Unit coping with an extraordinary array of challenges. The defense argued that the 911 call is not clear and that Said was targeted by investigators because he is a Muslim. So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. Patrica Owens, Yaser Said's ex-wife, testified before the jury Thursday morning and said why she fled her home with her daughters only to return days before they were The only record of a call from Patricia to the Katrinak household was on 12/7/94. They told him that if he testified against his sister, Patricia, he would be able to get out of prison sooner. Liesbeth Powers/The A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. According to the Division of the Adult Institutions and Gov. I believe in Patricias innocence and she deserves to be freed, at last! I live in Pennsylvania, not far from where this happened. Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. Probably by the jeans and the boots. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. in journalism from the University of Southern California. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with both girls in the week before their killings because she was in great fear of her life, police said. And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! Why bother with this site, which isnt for professional criminalists/forensic scientists, if youre going to get so tetchy and rude? Roughly nine months ago, Interpol contacted the police department that kept her file open. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. No show. Its definitely getting rougher every day, Andrew told the Morning Call. Book her. Mother of Sarah and Amina Said calls Yaser Said 'the devil' after a Dallas jury found him guilty. Prosecution leader McIntyre, when interviewed, laughingly dismissed him as a nut in an effort to trivialise Traupmans input. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, in a letter to Patricia. Im dying. (Nope. In 2016, Oklahoma police arrested the mother, Patricia Spann, now 44, and her 26-year-old daughter, Misty Velvet Dawn Spann, charging both of them with incest. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. Another former boyfriend said she talked about Andrew frequently and liked to gaze at old photos of him. Jenkins' violent death shocked residents of the Northeast Kingdom, including Gerta Blasczyk of St. Johnsbury. Trash-talking ex. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. There are innocent people in prison. Police identified the pair as Joann and Alex Katrinak. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). The fact that Jerome was gay was left out of the trial altogether. Hate Crimes Prevention Act and 45 counts of using a firearm So the issue that he was picking up men in downtown Los Angeles was irrelevant to the case although that couldve been a lead to the killer. "I couldn't believe it," Blasczyk said of the crime. The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. Two problems, then: a failure to see your own position as you see others (failure to comprehend irony), and failure to understand the difference between fact and opinion. Contact Elizabeth Murray at 651-4835 or emurray@freepressmedia.com. Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. Authorities said they have no evidence that Jerome had cancer or was dying. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. 2023 www.burlingtonfreepress.com. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! That poor child and that poor woman. Its totally irrelevant. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. CHOOSE1 Three Strikes Reform Act needs 365,880 signatures by June 1: Volunteer today! Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. Patricia complied fully with the original investigation of the crime and wasnt a suspect because none of the blood or fingerprints found at the crime scene matched hers. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. Mr. Said harbored his father, Yaser, inside an apartment in Bedford, Texas, where a maintenance worker spotted Yaser on Aug. 14, 2017. And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. It was a very big shock to see to know that she was still alive. Flawed justice: the wrongful conviction of Kerry Baxter Sr. It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. A man was convicted Thursday of helping to hide a brother who was accused of murdering his teenage daughters in Irving more than 12 years ago, the U.S. Attorneys Office announced. Incriminating words. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? "You knew how the Thats all for this post. Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. What definition? The phone wire was located at the opposite end of the basement, which was dark. Ls HUe7C22R>_%m~e5?h His nephew, Islam, the brother to Amina and Sarah and son to Yaser, pleaded guilty to the same charges in June 2021 and received 10 years. Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? WebIn burst a group of men and women with their guns drawn. Unlike most people who stayed on the streets all day, she maintained a neat, attractive appearance, wearing makeup and a dress or skirt each day. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two teenage daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. Meticulous primping. Instead, he hid for 12 years until the FBI found him in a relatives home in Denton County. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. In a surprise move, Said testified on Monday. Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Engagement/Breaking News reporter. It says that Andrew reported the cut phone lines and broken pad lock was reported to the police at 10:30. No explanation given. She won't see them graduate from college. 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. 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