I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. But I also have lever rifles in pistol calibers of 357 and 45 colt. I agree with Dave. MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. Regardless of the manufacturer, most reloading books recommend you do not load bullets lighter than 158 grains. Additionally, .357 Magnum lever action rifles can accept optics as most are pre-tapped for scopes and can easily be fit for a tactical rail. rounds border on simply dumb when the .357 Maximum is so much more accurate and easier to shoot accurately with its moderate recoil. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? My all-time favorite .357 rifle is still the IMI Timber Wolf pump. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. Remington manufactured this impressive cartridge, and still produces new brass for handloaders on occasion. I just read how lever actions were among the first guns carried on single point slings. 350 Legend reloading? | Ruger Forum Most of all it looks cool and reminds me of the good old days when guns were all made from steel and wood instead of plastic. But what if we wanted the right bullet for the occasional hyena, baboon, wallaby or racoon, say a 180-220 grain soft bullet propelled along at about 1200 feet per second? rounds much more than the .22s. Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. Thats exactly the sort of info i was looking for. You want a 357 Max rifle, best to go to MGM with Encore barrel, with Bellm's chambering. The "U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, Model of 1903," better-known as the M1903 Springfield, has become one of the most popular U.S. military small arms to collect. Ive never understood the fascination with Black Rifles. Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. In fact, a lever action carbine and a revolver in matching caliber is every bit as useful today as it was for the settlers on the Western Frontier. by Nath Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:30 pm, Post I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. Lite recoil and is deadly. Great for when wearing gloves. Thanks for the link. IMR 4227 for .357 Magnum | The Firearms Forum It has always had a good trigger but now it has one of those Ive fired it about 50,000 times trigger jobs and is as smooth and sweet as any trigger Ive owned. I have a old JM Marlin lever rifle in .357, Its one of those rifles that has been out there and used before I got it. Id buy another Henry in a heartbeat, if my gun safe werent replete with levers already. Hot and spiced with nutmeg and cinnamon on a cold day kicks ass, https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/97/56/4e/97564e38ab918eae2103ffa40b24f0c1.jpg. The Alaskan combines tradition wit NO Credit Card Fees Like the Other Guys!! Last one he had and probably will get for some time. Full rechamber to .357 MAXimum or .350 Legend for energy levels on par with .300 Savage or moderate .308 Winchester loads and a bonafide 250 yard rifle. by AJMD429 Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 pm, Post Most were returned to the factory and their purchase price refunded. Our public range requires that spent brass be picked up. L ess than 50 rounds fired through the barrel. I specialize in Thompson Center barrels but also rechamber CVA, H&R, and the new Henry single shots in .357 Magnum to .357 Maximum, .350 Legend, and a number of other .35 caliber cartridges such as .35 Remington and .358/.356 Winchester. And .45-70 would be awesome, too. The targets were heavy and had to be hit hard and in the right place. Even when I was younger I preferred the .357 over the .44. A hollow-point 357 magnum bullet combines maximum weight retention and terminal expansion to provide threat-stopping power . Since this is a single-shot firearm, there is no potential for flame cutting, and the true potential of this cartridge is realized. .357 Maximums and the 9x72R, an old German rifle cartridge. Both are top performers. The Gun That Won The West. The chrony doesnt lie: .357 levers punch well above their weight: those .357s out of a 20 inch barrel will just bounce off the bad guys chest, I tell ya!!!!!!! Kahlil, was the Marlin 94 you just got back from the Repair shop made between 2007 and 2012-2015? With straight-walled cartridges, you dont need a dedicated space. Slower burning powders will enjoy a longer barrel more than faster burning powders. by awp101 Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:23 pm, Post Although a crimp is not required for a single-shot firearm, I crimp anyway. Two million signatures needed by Nov 17 to qualify for a 2021 Special Election. No box or papers. 5 Best .357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifles [Guide] - Pew Pew Tactical https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/henry-big-boy-steel-357-magnum-38-special-lever-action-rifle. Many would consider it a good deer cartridge, but when used in a handgun, it would be rather marginal for that purpose. Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. Nobody cared about the AR-15. Sorry, there are no results in your area. Thats one reason my dad carried a semi-auto 12 Gauge for whitetails. In those area, they cant legally own an AR, AK, etc. .357 Maximum when loaded down in a rifle length barrel is almost like shooting an air rifle. Because many states have recently enacted hunting laws that allow for straight-case centerfire cartridges, in addition to the previous shotgun slugs only. 38 Special full metal jacket round will hit with the force of 189 pounds of pressure per square foot at a . Barrel has only been to the range for load development. or, H&R BARREL ONLY and $150 check or money order. Jan 23, 2014. Post Problem is, because of the pandemic, and an election year, like all the ammo, there isnt any to be had, in the Pacific Northwest anyway. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. That never happened with Ruger. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA Within a few weeks, the company got so many complaints, they halted production and never resumed. It packs or stows easily and are very difficult to find lately. tend to do quite well in the .357 Maximum. Good time to start getting ready for the next ammo drought. Never again Marlin, shouldve bought another Henry. . From pressure data with this specific bullet, we knew there were no safety issues with the slightly oversize bullet as along as handloaders used Speer data for the Speer bullet. That 2000 fps 357 mag load is 1100 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. Its pleasant to shoot even with .357 mag. 30.30 vs. 357mag for deer hunting | Survivalist Forum There were some factory chambered in .357 Remington Maximum over 20 guage. can anyone suggest a competent gunsmith? Reloading has nothing to do with it.. And, I AM a Vietnam in-country veteran, Gomer. There is a lot of muzzle flash with the Maximum. Try some Blue Dot in your .357 Mag, chronograph it and see how you like it. How do the modern .357 loads compare to the first repeaters? .44 Henry rimfire. Or crushed and fermented into a crisp, dry Cider. I have a H&R single shot .357 maximum. A real plain looking carbine, but the thing shoots like a dream. My one friend was shooting 158jsp out of his as they shot very well. 1830 fps 100 yds 1427 fps 200 yds 1138 fps 158 gr. Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. Since the rules have changed again effective this fall I have came up with another case based on the 444 marlin necked to .375 at 1.8 inches long. by elmo123 Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:11 pm, Post About 5 deer have fallen to that rifle/bullet combo, all of the bang-flop's at about 80 yards. Then expand and retool , upgrade if you find its your thing. Single shots from Thompson/Center, Wichita and Merrill appeared on the expanding .357 Maximum market. Classified Ad (1000+), Search Full Text of Listings It is my go-to gun for self-defense at home and in my car. *We Never share your email without your permission. This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. Last time I went hunting. Rimmed cases don't play well with stacked magazines like in the 700 Remington. Own Stock. The youngsters love shooting it with .38 spl. New cartridge and rifle. If you compare a 16" 30-30 to a 16" .357 Mag, the difference is even smaller. Thanks to everyone for beginning my education about lever guns! https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-marlin-1894c-357-magnum/, The review after Wild West Guns rescued it: twist: 1:18.75"; trim length: 1.285"; primer: Winchester SPM; bullet diam. John said that he quietly kept on shooting his Rugers in the controversial caliber. I will admit to some bias my first handgun was a S&W Model 19 and, for many years, it was my only handgun. Look around on the internet. 1 single-shot rifle in .357 Magnum, extra rifles without the CHP markings were offered through employee sales. Those Remlins had some serious issues, and are the least desirable models of all Marlin 94s. Max chambering. Who knows what the future will bring and if the wife and I will one day move out of this state, but for now we have good jobs, good friends, a good church, no debt, and hope that the current angst against Newsom and the Left in general will bring about some degree of change in November. My M19 was made in 1976. The .357 Maximum is a stretched .357 Magnum case; its about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. We cover the 357 MaximumAll you need to know about the 357 Remington Maximum! The revolvers that were built in this caliber are rare, and consistently go for a premium over other Ruger Blackhawks. My lever is a Winchester in .45 Colt, for which you can not only reload, but you can reload pretty close to double the pressure of a handgun round, as long as you are using a modern rifle, and depending on the weight of the round. The AR-15s in .223 are just glorified rabbit guns in my opinion. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. Lever actions are a hoot to shoot. I shot 180 hardcast lead both from Buffalo Bore and HSM bear loads. The sights are just like the CSBL are an XS Sights ghost ring sight set. Lots of these 'oddball' wildcats and so on can be found on, http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2 rguns.html, http://drcfirearmsoutdoors.businesscata tion-rifle, http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw y_2012.pdf, It is currently Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:00 am. im looking to trade for a 357 lever action.. Good luck.hope you brought your best marbles.. You are using an out of date browser. Thus sighted, 125 grain +p 38 special is spot on out to about 50 yards, maybe furtherbut havent tried it. Although some may not find this particular gun relevant, I think there are lots of pluses. So without further adiou "Welcome". Accepted Payment Methods: Returns: 3 Days One say I will probably add a .357 in a carbine for all around utility in the 100 yards or less range. The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. Since its a range toy for me, its never been a big enough issue for me to bump it to the top of the to-do list. The Henry Single Shot is one VERY nice little rifle! I took photos and pointed out the issue but still didnt fix it. Lever-Action Ballistics Comparison: .30-30 vs .357 Magnum Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. )(2009 Note: Some of these loads are from 1996 and in the passing years the powder companies have reduced their maximum loads particularly ones that have been around a long time like Unique. My revolvers and levers arent in .357 Mag. It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. Well, things are tough all over I guess. Handi Rifle in 357 Mag | Bushcraft USA Forums Apparently it was a regular thing. Dies, a dipper set and some components and you are gtg. Buy in stock Contender and Encore barrels for immediate shipment or have them custom build your barrel in 4-6 weeks! This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. The Big Boy Steel Carbine is competing for the top of my wish list I really like the color case hardened version. It can really thump that shoulder. This cartridge began the " Magnum era" of handgun ammunition. 30-30 is always a good option. Buy Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA: GunBroker is the largest seller of Other Rifles Rifles Guns & Firearms All: 973628258. . And a fun one! Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. lets say it was well used and not maintained. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. Fully agree with this. I cant go the range without people coming over to try it out. The hammer was replaced and some work was done to help the feeding and cycling but I am still having a bolt issue. Returns MUST be left with the transferring dealer. This produced a blue-white ring of fire at the gap where the bullet transitioned the jump from cylinder to the barrel. Only because the ammo is cheaper. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:28 pm, Post Thats what the saddle ring designs were for. Threaded barrel. The option for a MAG chamber lets you load published .357 MAXimum loads in the MAGnum case: Henry wisely chose the old, original closed breech barrel chamber with a very short forcing cone, as opposed to the current overly long forcing cone chamber that is essentially the same as a "shot out" barrel used by nearly all other manfacturers. It's another special purpose cartridge that has an eerie resemblance to the Max. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum Pun intended. 38 special. Sellier, who established the company in Prague in 1825 and began manufacturing percussion caps for use in muskets and rifles. properly aligns and supports the shank of the bullet as it enters the rifling. Ive chosen to go with a strategy that includes both firearms that the SASS folks find fascinating and others that cause the antis to have bowel control problems you can cover a lot of bases for just a couple thousand dollars. I really am not trying to get a caliber war started but, I think the .357 mag is about the perfect handgun round. by stretch Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:47 pm, Post Take a lever action over an AR every day. 357 Magnum Rifle M.V. If I absolutely had to ditch all my guns and go with a single handgun + single rifle, this would be my choice. It shoots deadly accurate and has amazingly smooth trigger action. Backorder OK. Slip Top 50 Smoke Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. Seems to me thats just about the perfect lever-action carbine caliber. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Loading your own was a matter of economic necessity for most of us, and wildcatting was very common. Long loaded 357 Mag should still be accurate in the 360 and are great for fun shooting. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. Which chamber to choose? by Chris83716 Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:35 pm, Post I just picked up a Ruger #1 CHP 357mag that will be going to the gun smyth next week to have the chamber stretched to da Max. You can also put ketchup on a hot dog, but you shouldnt. Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. A 20 1892 weighs just over 6 lbs loaded. The long narrow case is not well suited to propellants much faster than the 2400-class propellants. Yes, it was an easy one to fill the bill with. Prefer .44 Mag to .357, but thats just me. I had only seen photos (prints?) The max lead . It appears to be a rimless 357 Maximum. Thanks Muddy, 2506, hunter67, shooter7. The "little but mighty" .357 " Maxie" ! Suppessor equiped lever guns with Subsonic plinker ammo are a hoot to shoot. . The tactikewl timmys that see all rifles as ARs are missing the point. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. The 357 Maximum was invented to compete in that contest (most likely?). The .357 Maximum was developed in the early 80's by Ruger and Remington Arms as a silhouette cartridge for the Blackhawk revolver. I did it some years back when Indiana got new deer hunting regulations.